amanuensis1: Stuff that bothers me when I think about it...

Amanuensis (

amanuensis1) wrote,
@ 2009-09-22 19:05:00

Current mood:	confused
Current music:	"The Elfin Knight," Anna Underhill
Entry tags:	disney, stuff

Stuff that bothers me when I think about it...

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	iambickilometer 2009-09-22 11:39 pm UTC (link)
	Perhaps she's his grandmother. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:44 am UTC (link)
	But doesn't he call her mama? (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	florahart 2009-09-22 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	It's the only positive representation of nontraditional family (fostering, stepparenting, whatever) in all of Disneydom? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	pauraque 2009-09-23 12:13 am UTC (link)
	You stole what I was going to say. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:46 am UTC (link)
	I like that; I'd like to think it was that complex and not just, "Hmm, we made Mrs. Potts too grandmotherly to have a five-year-old son. Ah, fuggit, no one will notice." (Reply to this) (Parent)

	_hannelore 2009-09-24 09:53 am UTC (link)
	reason #545734867363635657645 why you are so awesome. (Reply to this) (Parent)

son_of_darkness
2009-09-22 11:44 pm UTC (link)

Maybe she's actually his grandmother, but his real mother died in childbirth, so she took him on as her own and just never told him? He's still young enough not to have questioned it yet.

My second theory: It's a Disney movie. Menopause doesn't exist. I mean... this is a world in which people spend a good portion of their lives existing as anthropomorphic household objects... ;P

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	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:47 am UTC (link)
	I remember when The Emperor's New Groove came out and it was discussed that this was the first time a pregnant (at least visibly pregnant) woman had been shown in a Disney flick. So your "there is no menopause" explanation could hold true since this is pre-TENG, and not necessarily as progressive. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	gnomad 2009-09-22 11:45 pm UTC (link)
	She could just be prematurely gray. I mean, she's got very few wrinkles on that face... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:51 am UTC (link)
	Ah, but she's got that key one under her eye! I'm thinking if Fifi the maid (whatever her name is) is in her late twenties/pushing thirty--because she looks too wordly to be much younger-- Mrs. Potts has got to be doing the fifty-plus thing. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	lotrwariorgodss 2009-09-22 11:52 pm UTC (link)
	My mom had me when she was 45, and her hair was greying a few years later! Also the stress of being turned into a teapot might have had an effect on her hair color. =) (I have always wondered about this though...) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:54 am UTC (link)
	Change-of-life babies! Yup, they happen. :D But it's not just the grey hair, it's the subtle "this is how Disney shows age without making people look decrepit and scary" lines she has. Such as by her eyes. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	glockgal 2009-09-22 11:53 pm UTC (link)
	She's one of those rare 'I'm 60 and I got pregnant and had a baby' women. Her story was on CNN last night, you mighta missed it. :/ (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:54 am UTC (link)
	This is what happens when I go to bed early. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	atdelphi 2009-09-22 11:59 pm UTC (link)
	I'm going to say the feather duster had him out of wedlock and it was all hushed up. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 12:55 am UTC (link)
	This post is making the BEST theories. ~~I almost want to write this one now~~ (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	gmth 2009-09-23 01:09 am UTC (link)
	Hee, this is a universe where little boys are turned into vicious beasts, the silverware sings, dances, and fights enemies and Robbie Benson is a BAMF, and this is the point on which you have trouble suspending your disbelief? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 01:22 am UTC (link)
	INDEED. We must have PERSPECTIVE. (Oh, what the hell does that stand for again? Big-Ass Man Fiend?) (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	moon_maiden36 2009-09-23 01:12 am UTC (link)
	I've always sort of wondered that. Along with: what about all of his siblings? What happened to them? ('Cause I KNOW at one point, she tells him to get in the cupboard with all of his brothers and sisters.) (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	A Ciel Icon Seems Appropriate For this Conversational Addition... moon_maiden36 2009-09-23 01:15 am UTC (link)
	I've also always felt sorta bad for Beast, 'cause he was transformed into a monster at, what, age 12? Something really young, anyway, when ALL kids are cankerous little bastards. So that witch was sorta being unfair, if you ask me. ~~It's still one of my favorite Disney movies, though. <3~~ (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	lauriegilbert 2009-09-23 01:30 am UTC (link)
	Have I told you lately that I love you? Because I do, and this post and its comments totally show why! (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-09-23 02:01 am UTC (link)
	I love all the alternate theories everyone comes up with! I HAS A CLEVER FLIST. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	persephone_blue 2009-09-23 02:21 am UTC (link)
	White hair not because of age but due to teapot-transformation trauma. (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	sinick 2009-09-23 02:42 am UTC (link)
	Your icon WINS THE INTARWEBZ. twitches like an Addams Family fan from waaayback. (Reply to this) (Parent)

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	sinick 2009-09-23 02:42 am UTC (link)
	She's his Fagin. Or possibly his Madam. (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-10-17 06:38 pm UTC (link)
	Both of these theories move to the top of my list! wants Fagin!Mrs. Potts (Reply to this) (Parent)

	alyndra 2009-09-23 03:50 am UTC (link)
	I always wondered about the large numbers of generic 'personality-less' household objects. Were they just really boring people we didn't see at the end, or were they inanimate objects that just got swept up into the spell and then went back to sitting around when it ended? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-10-17 06:39 pm UTC (link)
	And what happens if the castle has no more plates or utensils or cleaning equipment or furniture any longer? (Reply to this) (Parent)

melannen
2009-09-23 05:05 am UTC (link)

I think I had kind of worked out this really tragic story where, like, the servants who were children at the time of the transformation didn't get older, because inanimate objects can't *grow*, but inanimate objects do *age*, so the adults kept getting older, while Chip had spent decades trapped as a small, increasingly damaged young boy and his mom grew elderly.

...I think these things through too hard.

(though given the screencap used in that macro, I'm more tempted to say "He's actually a very small, very disturbed 40-year-old." Which isn't entirely different from my original theory...)

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	amanuensis1 2009-10-17 06:40 pm UTC (link)
	I love that you think this hard about things! Because I'm totally this way too. (Reply to this) (Parent)

elsajeni
2009-09-23 05:14 am UTC (link)

So, I mentioned this to my husband on irc. Subsequent chatlog:

My favorite theory is "Duh, the feather duster had him out of wedlock and it was hushed up."
Then who is the daddy?
A soldier, passing through.
You sure? You sure it wasn't...THE PRINCE/BEAST?!
OH SHIT
That actually had not occurred to me and it's much sexier.
CHIP IS THE BASTARD HEIR TO THE THRONE
WHAT IF BELLE HAS CHILDREN
MURDER AND INTRIGUE!
(Quick! Go suggest this in the thread and receive praise!)
I'M ABOUT TO!

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elsajeni
2009-09-23 05:16 am UTC (link)

So, if you put names in angle brackets MYSTERIOUSLY THEY DON'T WORK.

[Elsajeni] My favorite is "Duh, the feather duster had him out of wedlock and it was hushed up."
[Husband] Then who is the daddy?
[Elsajeni] A soldier, passing through.
[Husband] You sure? You sure it wasn't...THE PRINCE/BEAST?!
[Elsajeni] OH SHIT
[Elsajeni] That actually had not occurred to me and it's much sexier.
[Husband] CHIP IS THE BASTARD HEIR TO THE THRONE
[Elsajeni] WHAT IF BELLE HAS CHILDREN
[Husband] MURDER AND INTRIGUE!
[Husband] (Quick! Go suggest this in the thread and receive praise!)
[Elsajeni] I'M ABOUT TO!

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	alice_montrose 2009-09-23 06:00 am UTC (link)
	I support the theory of her being Chip's grandmother or at the very least his mother's (much) older sister. (And OMG from this angle she looks like my aunt... well, if my aunt were 20 kilos heavier and at least 20 years older. Which means I'll end up looking like this if I don;t watch my diet again. a bit freaked) (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-10-17 06:43 pm UTC (link)
	Auntie Mama! Or Great-Auntie Mama! Or...something. :D (Reply to this) (Parent)

	lady_songsmith 2009-09-23 08:01 am UTC (link)
	Actually, what'll really blow your mind is that as near as I can figure, she had him while she was a teapot. Srsly. He's like, what, 8 maximum? More like 6? And they've been enchanted for HOW long? (Reply to this) (Thread)(Expand)

	the_gabih 2009-09-23 09:35 am UTC (link)
	The way I see it, the spell froze all their ages- ergo, he would have been 6-8 when it was cast, and would have stayed that way. It's the only way the dog would have survived, realistically. And the Prince kept his looks, so... yeah. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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	the_gabih 2009-09-23 09:34 am UTC (link)
	I have actually been wondering about this for ages. Srsly. Though the grandma theory does hold some water, it must be said... (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-10-17 06:46 pm UTC (link)
	I'm so glad I'm not the only one! (Reply to this) (Parent)

	la_mariane 2009-09-23 09:35 am UTC (link)
	I never wondered about it... maybe because it's Disney. And I like the theory of Chip being the Beast's illegitimate son with the feather dsuter. But it's also true the dates don"t match : Chip must have been born when they were all still objects. Or maybe they stopped aging while under the curse? (Reply to this) (Thread)

	amanuensis1 2009-10-17 06:48 pm UTC (link)
	I always assumed they didn't age while under the curse myself, but she still looks on the end-of-ovulation side of motherhood imho. (Reply to this) (Parent)

	Translation request lzqsk 2009-09-27 03:21 pm UTC (link)
	Hello, Sorry to bother you! I want to translate some of your HP fics into Chinese. And I've emailed you just now, here I am just in case :) Could you please check your mail box if possible? Thank you for those brilliant work! Best wishes, Doris (Reply to this)

baka_oxymoron
2009-09-29 11:29 pm UTC (link)

I don't suppose you mind if I friend you?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall reading an interview with you once in which was mentioned a lovely short story you'd written subverting the classic 'princess in a tower' premise. Unfortunately, I cannot remember the name of this story, nor can I find the interview. >_<

So I was wondering if you might direct me to a list of the original stories you've written, and where they've been published. I'm sure I wasn't thinking of someone else. *frustrated*

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	baka_oxymoron 2009-10-13 06:55 am UTC (link)
	Oh never mind, it was Cassandra Claire after all. kicks self >_< I do wish you would write something publishable, though. Some of her fanfiction was lovely, but I have far more faith in your ability. (Reply to this) (Parent)(Thread)(Expand)

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